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jimmayor007
Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed 12th Sep, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: Fire Equipment 101 checklist |
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There are many things you need to look into when buying fire / performance equipment. These are some questions that should help you when you are deciding to buy such things.
1. Connections- what kind of connectors are being used? If its those key chain aka split rings, get the hell away!
Those are not safe no matter what kind of material they are made of. The best kind of connectors are those quicklinks that need to be fastened into place.
2. Chain- is it metal, what is its gauge? The higher the gauge the better the equipment (and heavier) Watch out for people who try to sell you cheap thin material. Ball chain is the BEST for ease of spinning, but yes it should be replaced every year or two.
For safety concerns.
3. Handles- leather vs fibers? Leather is always the way to go bc any fiber grip can get burned up. We never want this to happen, so use leather. Leather handles will need to be replaced after a year or more of stress.
4. Length- The length is usually determined from the end of your fingertips to your arm pit. People use all different types for different displays. So test out different sizes, and find one that works best for you.
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Invader_Xan

Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 540 Location: In Space
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Posted: Wed 12th Sep, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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That's some good advice dude. Couple of things to add, too...
2. If possible, check that the chain's been properly welded together. Cheap chains are not welded shut, and even high gauge will be relatively weak. This goes for ball chain too.
If you want the strongest, go for welded twist link.
3. If you get good quality nylon fibre fingerloops, they may not be able to take heat, but as long as you keep them away from flames, they tend to last longer than leather because the fibrous material has a higher tensile strength.
Just thought I'd share.  |
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LewisM
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 110 Location: UK > Bristol
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Posted: Wed 12th Sep, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Out of interest, is it posable to shorten the chains on fire poi? |
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Invader_Xan

Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 540 Location: In Space
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Posted: Wed 12th Sep, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. Though you'll need a pair of bolt cutters.  |
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Daedra PoiPoi Mod.

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 2276 Location: Canterbury, Kent
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Posted: Thu 13th Sep, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Another thing!
1) Just for safety's sake go over all the screws on your equipment, and maybe just give them a quick tighten.
Or that's just me being picky! |
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Felixwah PoiPoi Mod.

Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1882 Location: Northwich/manchester
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Posted: Thu 13th Sep, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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nah man that is an integral part of my checklist alway go over your equipmant prior to spinning fire dont want no fire heads flying off  |
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Daedra PoiPoi Mod.

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 2276 Location: Canterbury, Kent
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Posted: Thu 13th Sep, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| When i was out in Spain, the screws magically disappeared from my poi! But this guy, whom i only know as Thaitom took the poi from my very hands and wrapped them with garden wire...and it worked to, i was pretty pleased! But no i always have me tool box handy now when it comes to poi lol, plenty of spares of everything and ma tools! Anyone else here carry a tool box when it comes to fire? |
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Felixwah PoiPoi Mod.

Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1882 Location: Northwich/manchester
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Posted: Thu 13th Sep, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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just my leatherman the only tool you'll ever need  |
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sxylou123
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 481 Location: Margate, Kent
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Posted: Sat 15th Sep, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I always carry a pair of pliers in case I have to bend the metal back but usually their good for a few weeks.
I also robbed a fire blanket from someones work (I don't wanna be them if there as a fire), this and my paraffin all travels in a huge builders bucket which is my dipping pot. Oh and a shielded candle for those windy nights when a lighter just doesn't work! |
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Miranda
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sat 15th Sep, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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With all this in mind, does anyone feel like linking to some sites / good poi?
I am planning to get some fire poi this christmas, and it'd be good to know I was getting decent ones
How much should good ones cost? |
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Invader_Xan

Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 540 Location: In Space
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Posted: Sat 15th Sep, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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IMHO, the best set of fire poi a beginner can buy is this set from Home of Poi (my apologies to the good manufacturers here at PoiPoi).
The heads from this set were the first fire poi I owned (I made the chains myself -- a pair of heads only cost about £6). The full set costs a little under £30 which isn't bad at all. They're light, the flames aren't too big, and they have virtually no exposed metal -- so if you accidentally catch yourself, you're unlikely to burn much more than arm hair. They're also much less painful to catch yourself with than cathedral stacks or monkey fists.
Burn time is around 4 minutes with a cool burning fuel like pure kerosene, so it's not too long to spin for either (but trust me, adrenaline will make your first few spins feel a lot longer).
That's my recommendation, anyway.  |
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Miranda
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sun 16th Sep, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Okay... have bookmarked.
Roll on Christmas  |
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LewisM
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 110 Location: UK > Bristol
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Posted: Sun 16th Sep, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Yea i was planning on getting a fire set for xmas as well, would be great if some of the experienced people here could recomend some  |
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ajclarke PoiPoi Mod.

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 923 Location: Preston, Lancashire
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Posted: Sun 16th Sep, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I would actually say that the PP ones are more for advanced spinners due to the chain type, and exposed metal on the heads!
They are the best pair I have spun with though, even though i dont own a pair myself!
I ended up getting some cheaper ones like the ones Xan suggested. But mine are from Oddballs! |
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Miranda
Joined: 07 Sep 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sun 16th Sep, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oddballs in Camden?
*loves* |
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