Combinations

libero · Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 5

Hey there

1st of all ty for the video tutorials, I enjoyed them a lot, moreover I've learned 3 or 4 thanks to them.

Now, the question is how do I start doing combinations? Or maybe when? I'm spinning for about week, so now I can do butterfly (also coming from split spinning), 5 beat weave forwards, 3 beat weave backwards (also both coming into each other - turning), high turn, reel turn, hip reel, tuck turn. Now working on angel wings and 5beat bw.

So shall I learn more moves to be able to perform some combinations? I can now do all those elements without stopping spinning, though nothing intresting happens strichauge

Maybe u send me to an article where such thing is explained, any help is welcome.

P.S. sorry for my English strichauge

P.P.S. using my chance, about the buzsaw stuff, can I do it with my chain length 60 cm? as the girl's poi are rather short (btw she's damn good)

Psychotic Neurotic · Posted: Mon 08th Jan, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject:

I'm not criticising here lol, but because you're new to it there's not going to be a lot you can play with (but there is probably more already than you think!)

It's good that you can go fwd 3bw to backwards, cos thats a combination in itself. Next try from Forwards, to backwards, to windmill, then to forwards again, and try to the do it with the minimum amount of turning - thats the fountain and looks snazzy snaz.

Try some simulataneous or delayed takeouts, with arms in different places, like from buttefly, right arm goes to an overhead takeout (like half an angel wings) and the left does a circle behind your back a split second afterward. Or maybe at the same time?

Also try hip reels to shoulder reels, and then that in split time (it's in the tuition videos)

A fantastic one, although not a combination, to learn is how to transition from weave into butterfly without jumping into it. The link is here and this is how it should be learned to start with. It looks so much better than just launching yourself into a butterfly.
http://poipoi.info/tuition/tuition-transwriststop.php

You can do your buzzsaw as long as the chain will allow!
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libero · Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 5

Ty for the answer.

So, I'm doing that transition from fwd to btfly, takeouts, some piece of fountain and some other minor stuff. Got now some more ideas.

1 more question - about the buzzsaw. can I comehow grab the chains to make my 60 cm chain available for the move? as I saw Yuta doing that, but can't get how he is doing that. any hints?

Ty

Psychotic Neurotic · Posted: Wed 10th Jan, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

You mean making them shorter?

Spin in reverse and wrap them round your hands once, then spin forwards again.

libero · Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 5

nice! I've tried the following things:

1) I didnt understood clearly how the fountain is done, so I've managed to do the 5bt forward on my left side but behind me, then coming into 5bt forward just in front of me then 1 bit of windmill (or lockout from 5bt), then the 3bt reverse on the right side. Going back is the same but in reverse order. I liked so much, damn, good. ty for that stuff

2) managed to wrap the chains round my hands while doing 3bt forwards strichauge

releasing - 3bt reverse strichauge

lol

so nice

3) done the shoulder to hip reel, though not split yet

4) 5bt forwards => butterfly (thread the needle) with the help of wrist stop, coming back to beats, angel wings, takeouts, lockouts

so ur recommendations are damn helpful! strichauge

mb u suggest something else? strichauge

Psychotic Neurotic · Posted: Tue 16th Jan, 2007 11:23 am Post subject:

You seem to be doing well on your own! Just put some music on an go experiment. My favourite combination is

butterfly > writst stop > airwrap and catch it on your wrists, forcing them to spin into reverse (some people call it hypercuffs) > then into an airwrap.

libero · Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 5

do u have any vidoe of u (or anybody else) doing that? as I am not completely sure what u are talking about.

btw, just uploaded a video of myself, so if u r intrested... *angel*
would be great if u pointed at my mistakes.

here it is:
http://video.mail.ru/bk/lcd-ad/training/1.html

will try all stuff with music on nxt training strichauge

Psychotic Neurotic · Posted: Tue 16th Jan, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject:

I can give you parts of it heheh.

The thing i was talking about when i said 'hypercuffs' he does here http://youtube.com/watch?v=x568oZhSwgA at 00:56.

The airwrap move is this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nN2pFDhvYAM&mode=related&search= at 02:45

You can only do this with socks though.

Your video is good! The only thing i would suggest is try the fountain with 3bw instead of 5bw, and when you come down from the over-your-head part, try and make it go on the outside of your left arm (if you come down to your left of course).

ajclarke · Posted: Tue 16th Jan, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject:

Nice video mate.

And nice vids Jayne. Ill try that later with my sockies

Felixwah · Posted: Wed 17th Jan, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject:

gay ass work network not lettin me go on youtube boooooooooooo :(

Psychotic Neurotic · Posted: Wed 17th Jan, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject:

lol, the first video I put down is of you!

Felixwah · Posted: Thu 18th Jan, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject:

lol dont matter thn hehe

Zoop · Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 5

I probably shouldn't post this here but I don't think it deserves its own thread...

Is it possible to do a 5 beat windmill? I thought the only way to windmill was 2 beats in front, 2 behind, then I accidently did 3 on both sides when doing a fountain thing, and after some experimenting realised I could do 4 beats as well. But is it possible to do 5? My hands seem to be twisted about as much as possible when I'm doing 4 beats (well, it feels a bit like doing 5 beats fw/bw only in different planes), so I was just curious if there's some trick to it.

Thanks!

Psychotic Neurotic · Posted: Fri 19th Jan, 2007 9:18 am Post subject:

*i* thought windmills could only be done with even beats. I know you can do 4, but I've never seen 3 before. Does having an odd number of beats reverse the direction?

Felixwah · Posted: Sun 21st Jan, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject:

im sure you can 5bt windmill. hmmm will post back in a bit Smile

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